Oct 16 19:57:21 * immortal is back (gone 00:15:28) Oct 16 19:57:35 are we ready Oct 16 19:57:38 wb Oct 16 19:57:42 ty Oct 16 19:57:44 i am Oct 16 19:57:57 werd Oct 16 19:58:01 its just me and you? Oct 16 19:58:18 suedoh ready i bet Oct 16 19:58:33 mechan1zm: you lanjack right? Oct 16 19:58:49 yea haven't done it for long just kinda got into it Oct 16 19:58:54 ok Oct 16 19:59:06 you might know some of this already Oct 16 19:59:29 ok Oct 16 19:59:35 im here.... Oct 16 19:59:38 and i lanjack Oct 16 19:59:42 i am sure i willl learn alot tho to :) Oct 16 19:59:45 and i am in a team of lanjackers Oct 16 19:59:53 ok Oct 16 19:59:55 and im ready Oct 16 19:59:59 then you can help too Oct 16 20:00:00 :p Oct 16 20:00:08 --> Bxtreme (Bxtreme@phawked-5119.lwrnce01.in.comcast.net) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:00:10 --- ph|z gives voice to Bxtreme Oct 16 20:00:12 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to Bxtreme Oct 16 20:00:15 :) Oct 16 20:00:16 welcome Oct 16 20:00:17 ok Oct 16 20:00:24 i think we should wait another ten minutes Oct 16 20:00:25 are we ready? Oct 16 20:00:28 ok Oct 16 20:00:30 ok Oct 16 20:00:32 thats cook Oct 16 20:00:35 cool Oct 16 20:00:36 heh Oct 16 20:01:01 time enough for me to get a buzz ;) Oct 16 20:01:17 <-- m0nk has quit (Quit: BitchX: EPIC on steroids.) Oct 16 20:01:58 first joint in a month Oct 16 20:02:14 ;D Oct 16 20:03:14 immortal what kind of laptop you have? Oct 16 20:03:29 immortal < * :> Oct 16 20:03:45 dude your gettin a dell Oct 16 20:03:49 my shits a built lappy Oct 16 20:03:53 lol Oct 16 20:03:59 with a ghey ass SiS chipset Oct 16 20:04:19 you can still wardrive though Oct 16 20:04:23 of course Oct 16 20:04:25 brb need to replay my emails Oct 16 20:04:27 can't complain too much :) Oct 16 20:04:27 :) Oct 16 20:04:42 reply* Oct 16 20:04:43 1.8GHZ p4 256mb ram Oct 16 20:04:51 win2kadvanced Oct 16 20:04:53 :D Oct 16 20:04:56 ;p Oct 16 20:04:58 with vmware Oct 16 20:05:09 immortal Oct 16 20:05:12 dawgyg Oct 16 20:05:14 i have 1.5ghz amd 256mb ram Oct 16 20:05:18 invte screech n matt here Oct 16 20:05:19 --> matt_ (matt@207.13.225.phawked-41529) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:05:20 --- ph|z gives voice to matt_ Oct 16 20:05:25 --- dawgyg gives channel operator status to matt_ Oct 16 20:05:27 k Oct 16 20:05:31 invite screech Oct 16 20:05:35 welcome matt_ Oct 16 20:05:38 :D Oct 16 20:05:39 get it Oct 16 20:05:43 matt meet immortal Oct 16 20:05:44 ;x Oct 16 20:05:45 lol Oct 16 20:05:47 immortal met matt Oct 16 20:05:50 sup Oct 16 20:05:54 sup Oct 16 20:05:56 grr Oct 16 20:06:01 screech jus pinged out lol Oct 16 20:06:05 :/ Oct 16 20:06:25 he lost inet connection Oct 16 20:06:27 :| Oct 16 20:07:11 has the discussion started yet :S?? Oct 16 20:07:17 no Oct 16 20:07:18 almost :) Oct 16 20:07:19 :D Oct 16 20:07:22 ok Oct 16 20:07:23 :) Oct 16 20:07:33 how long approx? Oct 16 20:07:40 3-5 Oct 16 20:07:43 ok Oct 16 20:07:45 brb in 3-5 Oct 16 20:07:52 kk Oct 16 20:08:36 i need ph00bar here Oct 16 20:09:16 --> Screech (localhost@phawked-60382.wythe.naxs.com) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:09:17 --- ph|z gives voice to Screech Oct 16 20:09:26 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to Screech Oct 16 20:09:29 :) Oct 16 20:10:02 needs a beer Oct 16 20:10:24 me too Oct 16 20:10:44 hey whats up th0r Oct 16 20:11:20 nothing Oct 16 20:11:23 you? Oct 16 20:11:50 dawgyg > th0r =) Oct 16 20:12:02 hey Oct 16 20:12:06 how you been man? Oct 16 20:12:06 --- deadcats is now known as NineCats Oct 16 20:12:19 heh supz bro Oct 16 20:12:21 yo Oct 16 20:12:25 th0rn u still hax0ring? Oct 16 20:12:27 we all settled Oct 16 20:12:29 not a whole lot Oct 16 20:12:34 and got loggers ready Oct 16 20:12:36 :D Oct 16 20:12:39 yea more into phreaking now then before Oct 16 20:12:40 yea logger ius ready :> Oct 16 20:12:46 but i still root the occasional shell Oct 16 20:12:51 come to #woh Oct 16 20:13:10 allright Oct 16 20:13:21 how many people here have actually been out on a wardrive? Oct 16 20:13:31 i have Oct 16 20:13:46 thats it? Oct 16 20:13:50 i havent done have the resources yet Oct 16 20:13:50 i know more of you have Oct 16 20:13:54 don't* Oct 16 20:13:59 ok Oct 16 20:14:01 no resources here yet either Oct 16 20:14:07 hehe k Oct 16 20:14:07 yet :) Oct 16 20:14:23 well im going to discuss getting started Oct 16 20:14:27 --> Kenny (trivia@phawked-55213.dub.cable.ntl.com) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:14:28 --- ph|z gives voice to Kenny Oct 16 20:14:32 --- immortal gives channel operator status to Kenny Oct 16 20:14:36 :) Oct 16 20:14:40 thanks dood Oct 16 20:14:45 Hiya babe Oct 16 20:14:45 --- NineCats is now known as TheoreticalKittens Oct 16 20:14:46 <-- Kenny has kicked TheoreticalKittens from #!lanjacking (No nick changes :@) Oct 16 20:14:48 --> TheoreticalKittens (thirdcats@phawked-60163.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:14:48 --- ph|z gives voice to TheoreticalKittens Oct 16 20:14:52 damn Oct 16 20:14:55 hold on Oct 16 20:15:00 i havent used this in a while Oct 16 20:15:00 :/ Oct 16 20:15:02 i will be talking about the windows side of things considering there is already a linux log out Oct 16 20:15:03 lewl Oct 16 20:15:11 the link to that is here Oct 16 20:15:20 http://metatag.tripod.com/howto/wardriving_blacksun.txt Oct 16 20:15:21 immortal...you should make room +m for discussion Oct 16 20:15:25 --- Received a CTCP S \rTahoma;0 Auto Voice Disabled from Kenny (to #!lanjacking) Oct 16 20:15:27 well for the part your talking Oct 16 20:15:32 heh Oct 16 20:15:35 /op Oct 16 20:15:36 --- Received a CTCP S \rTahoma;0 Knock Disabled from Kenny (to #!lanjacking) Oct 16 20:15:38 well i want ppl to be able to ask questions Oct 16 20:15:40 then -m when your done Oct 16 20:15:47 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to TheoreticalKittens Oct 16 20:15:55 its cool Oct 16 20:16:02 ok Oct 16 20:16:18 ok to lanjack Oct 16 20:16:28 you need to be wireless capable Oct 16 20:16:38 i.e. laptop, wirless nic, antenna Oct 16 20:16:52 i got my nic card from this site Oct 16 20:17:01 http://www.wirelesscentral.net/aprod/STUM-ANTW.html Oct 16 20:17:17 i got the orinoco gold card Oct 16 20:17:26 that supports both 64 bit and 128 bit encryption Oct 16 20:17:46 its the only one i have used Oct 16 20:18:07 so far i have no complaints on the performance Oct 16 20:18:27 k Oct 16 20:18:34 for those of you that are poor like me Oct 16 20:18:39 <-- dawgyg has quit (Connection reset by peer) Oct 16 20:18:40 and like to card your items Oct 16 20:18:44 heh Oct 16 20:18:49 use that link above Oct 16 20:18:50 lool Oct 16 20:18:58 you get it in about 2-3 days Oct 16 20:19:00 :D Oct 16 20:19:03 ;p Oct 16 20:19:16 i have silver card which supports only 64bit wep Oct 16 20:19:23 yeah Oct 16 20:19:34 i would suggest to upgrade Oct 16 20:19:36 but it depends Oct 16 20:19:43 on how you do your stuff Oct 16 20:19:51 i will soon just have no extra money right now heh Oct 16 20:19:55 :D Oct 16 20:20:08 the next thing youll need is netstumbler Oct 16 20:20:50 you can get that anywhere Oct 16 20:20:52 http://netstumbler.com/ Oct 16 20:20:56 its freeware Oct 16 20:21:05 and a good piece of software Oct 16 20:21:05 --> Mcleane (Mcleane@phawked-20934.vip.uk.com) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:21:06 --- ph|z gives voice to Mcleane Oct 16 20:21:12 they have for mac also (just to let you know) Oct 16 20:21:13 --- immortal gives channel operator status to Mcleane Oct 16 20:21:18 yep Oct 16 20:21:18 macstumbler.com Oct 16 20:21:20 :D Oct 16 20:21:22 i like it seems to work good :D Oct 16 20:21:27 yeah Oct 16 20:21:39 macstumbler and netstumbler both made by the same guy Oct 16 20:21:52 now if you use win2k advanced like i do Oct 16 20:22:00 youre going to need the new drivers for the card Oct 16 20:22:14 for some reason the cd was shipped with out 2k drivers Oct 16 20:22:35 www.orinocowireless.com Oct 16 20:22:38 i think is the site Oct 16 20:22:48 2k drivers should work on advanced Oct 16 20:23:00 they didnt Oct 16 20:23:10 weird Oct 16 20:23:21 if you look close youll notice they are the 98 drivers Oct 16 20:23:26 I use advanced on one of our network servers for DHCP Oct 16 20:23:29 never had a problem Oct 16 20:23:35 and i use it for hosting my personal server Oct 16 20:23:41 icic Oct 16 20:23:42 ok Oct 16 20:23:47 --> KoS (allan@phawked-41095.LSANCA54.covad.net) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:23:48 --- ph|z gives voice to KoS Oct 16 20:23:49 well just fyi if you run into probs Oct 16 20:23:51 but thats a different filesystem... shouldnt work on 2000 at all Oct 16 20:23:54 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to KoS Oct 16 20:23:56 ok cool Oct 16 20:24:00 :D Oct 16 20:24:03 pd Oct 16 20:24:12 hiya kos Oct 16 20:24:12 ? Oct 16 20:24:16 yo kos, this is the discussion Oct 16 20:24:18 you know...we are missing the socalwug meeting right now Oct 16 20:24:30 guys kos is an active lanjacker Oct 16 20:24:30 :) Oct 16 20:24:33 --> ArSuN|st (sun@phawked-41195.234.95.24.cfl.rr.com) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:24:34 --- ph|z gives voice to ArSuN|st Oct 16 20:24:34 nice Oct 16 20:24:36 welcome Oct 16 20:24:39 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to ArSuN|st Oct 16 20:24:40 thx Oct 16 20:24:42 he is talking about Oct 16 20:24:47 are you all windows users here? Oct 16 20:24:48 socalwug Oct 16 20:24:57 not on a regular basis Oct 16 20:25:01 yes. southern california wireless users group Oct 16 20:25:02 i use win on my laptop Oct 16 20:25:16 also check out www.bawug.org Oct 16 20:25:19 ;D Oct 16 20:25:30 k Oct 16 20:25:35 heh Oct 16 20:25:38 go on immortal Oct 16 20:25:43 depending in where you live Oct 16 20:26:09 well skip that Oct 16 20:26:12 first Oct 16 20:26:16 ;x Oct 16 20:26:22 :) Oct 16 20:26:23 you need to let your card scan Oct 16 20:26:27 for APs Oct 16 20:26:30 www.linuxiso.org Oct 16 20:26:30 --- TheoreticalKittens is now known as TheoreticalCats Oct 16 20:26:33 <-- Kenny has kicked TheoreticalCats from #!lanjacking (No nick changes :@) Oct 16 20:26:36 --> TheoreticalCats (thirdcats@phawked-60163.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:26:37 --- ph|z gives voice to TheoreticalCats Oct 16 20:26:43 farkin hall Oct 16 20:26:50 hm Oct 16 20:26:56 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to TheoreticalCats Oct 16 20:27:04 --- TheoreticalCats removes channel operator status from Kenny Oct 16 20:27:11 configure a profile for the card to search Oct 16 20:27:32 make sure to set the network name to either a "default" Oct 16 20:27:35 "any" Oct 16 20:27:39 or leave it blank Oct 16 20:28:06 i prefer to leave it blank Oct 16 20:28:12 same here Oct 16 20:28:22 this allows me to see all available APs Oct 16 20:28:30 and for those of you who dont know what an AP is Oct 16 20:28:41 its the access point to the network Oct 16 20:28:46 ;P Oct 16 20:28:54 * TheoreticalCats crosses out "abstract penis" in his notes Oct 16 20:29:03 lol Oct 16 20:29:06 lol Oct 16 20:29:09 hah Oct 16 20:29:15 lmao Oct 16 20:29:24 ha Oct 16 20:30:03 when you turn on the stumbler you should get a "no active APs" in the status bar on the bottom Oct 16 20:30:17 unless you have an AP that is active Oct 16 20:30:29 this will let you know that your card is working with the program Oct 16 20:30:44 otherwise it will say "no card detected" Oct 16 20:31:04 yes in some cases Oct 16 20:31:37 depending on where you are driving will depend on the types of APs you get Oct 16 20:31:44 either home or business Oct 16 20:31:51 sometimes a free hotspot Oct 16 20:32:25 --- Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 16 20:32:25 2002 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 16 20:33:51 2002 Oct 16 20:33:51 --> You are now talking on #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:33:51 --- Topic for #!lanjacking is )( - ******Discussion will begin in 45 mins***** if you have any one who would like to join in, please bring them :D Oct 16 20:33:51 --- Topic for #!lanjacking set by immortal at Thu Oct 17 01:59:09 Oct 16 20:33:51 --- ph|z gives voice to keak Oct 16 20:33:56 yeah that sucked Oct 16 20:33:57 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to keak Oct 16 20:34:36 <-- immortal has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by keak))) Oct 16 20:34:41 --- You are now known as immortal Oct 16 20:34:45 :/ Oct 16 20:34:52 ok Oct 16 20:34:54 where was i Oct 16 20:35:06 wb Oct 16 20:35:09 hotspots Oct 16 20:35:10 hotspot Oct 16 20:35:12 ok Oct 16 20:35:13 you had just turned on netstumbler Oct 16 20:35:24 ok Oct 16 20:35:51 the only APs worth connecting to are business APs Oct 16 20:36:02 no, vini was residential Oct 16 20:36:04 unless you just want to connect to the internet Oct 16 20:36:06 and he found terrorist information Oct 16 20:36:10 lol Oct 16 20:36:13 seriously Oct 16 20:36:19 i think he gave it to the authorities, im not sure Oct 16 20:36:23 well in most cases Oct 16 20:36:27 yeah Oct 16 20:36:30 <-- matt_ (matt@207.13.225.phawked-41529) has left #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:36:32 most home APs dont run servers Oct 16 20:36:41 but some do Oct 16 20:36:47 mine will :) Oct 16 20:36:55 well, hopefully yours will have wep Oct 16 20:37:00 lol Oct 16 20:37:02 itll have wep + ipsec Oct 16 20:37:14 and mac address filtering Oct 16 20:37:19 then you should be ok Oct 16 20:37:22 oh i almost forgot Oct 16 20:37:23 :) Oct 16 20:37:24 unless they manage to get your wep keys Oct 16 20:37:28 and spoof your mac address Oct 16 20:37:33 ok if its your first time wardriving you will get a kick out of the APs that pop onto the screen Oct 16 20:37:42 yes Oct 16 20:37:49 youll notice something called an SSID Oct 16 20:37:49 and take note of default AP names Oct 16 20:37:59 server set id Oct 16 20:38:04 thats the name of the AP Oct 16 20:38:08 such as linksys or default Oct 16 20:38:11 some default names are Oct 16 20:38:12 yes Oct 16 20:38:14 Airport Oct 16 20:38:21 tsunami Oct 16 20:38:24 WLAN Oct 16 20:38:31 Wireless Oct 16 20:38:42 depending on the vendor Oct 16 20:38:53 cisco :D Oct 16 20:38:57 --> ttb (ttbff@phawked-12106.new-york-06rh16rt-ny.dial-access.att.net) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:38:58 --- ph|z gives voice to ttb Oct 16 20:39:06 some ssids are the MAC addy Oct 16 20:39:11 --- ph|z gives channel operator status to ttb Oct 16 20:39:21 ive never seen that, but good to know... Oct 16 20:39:30 hmm Oct 16 20:39:39 in most cases you will need to use the ssid to log into the lan Oct 16 20:39:50 unless your card uses the closest AP Oct 16 20:39:56 or strongest signal Oct 16 20:40:03 like mine does that Oct 16 20:40:18 so usually i can just leave it and it will log into the lan Oct 16 20:40:31 but if you get a heavy populated area with APs Oct 16 20:40:37 you will need the ssid to log in Oct 16 20:40:51 and you fill that in when you create an AP profile Oct 16 20:40:54 q Oct 16 20:41:03 shoot Oct 16 20:41:12 can you give an example of what an ssid would look like? Oct 16 20:41:23 "linksys" Oct 16 20:41:37 its just a name Oct 16 20:41:43 okay Oct 16 20:41:50 proteus look @ this Oct 16 20:41:50 some poeple will name them Moms Wireless Oct 16 20:41:57 http://www.macstumbler.com/screenshot.jpg Oct 16 20:42:07 thats macstumbler, but netstumbler looks close Oct 16 20:42:10 or most business name them the same name as the company Oct 16 20:42:21 which is stupid Oct 16 20:42:25 ya lol Oct 16 20:42:27 cuz now i know who you are Oct 16 20:42:30 yes, makes it easy to park right outside Oct 16 20:42:36 instead of trying to find strongest signal :) Oct 16 20:42:37 yeah Oct 16 20:42:40 exactly Oct 16 20:42:51 now Oct 16 20:43:14 youre going to want to have protocols such as netbeui, appletalk and ipx/spx installed on the win machine Oct 16 20:43:27 so you can communicate with everything that is on the lan Oct 16 20:43:40 you just need basic networking knowledge Oct 16 20:43:53 ip classes, subnets etc Oct 16 20:44:21 check your ipconfig to see if you have been givin an ip Oct 16 20:44:37 if you have a default lan ip like 192.168.0.6 Oct 16 20:44:44 then most likely there is no dhcp server Oct 16 20:44:55 and that is the default ip the wireless nic gave you Oct 16 20:45:32 ssh 193.95.167.133 Oct 16 20:45:33 whoops Oct 16 20:45:37 :D Oct 16 20:45:53 lol Oct 16 20:45:57 once youre on the lan and have an ip Oct 16 20:46:07 gtg bbl bye Oct 16 20:46:08 youre going to want to scan the network youre on Oct 16 20:46:13 <-- Kenny has quit (Quit: Later Lamers) Oct 16 20:46:21 any network scanner will do Oct 16 20:46:25 i use superscan Oct 16 20:46:30 www.webattack.com Oct 16 20:46:39 <-- dawnhead has quit (Quit: ) Oct 16 20:46:44 its nothing special just a regular scanner Oct 16 20:46:47 i like sss Oct 16 20:47:24 you will also want a sniffer Oct 16 20:47:38 ethereal is good Oct 16 20:47:52 now if you try to lanjack at 12 midnight Oct 16 20:47:58 and try to sniff the lan Oct 16 20:48:06 youre just going to be sniffing your own ass Oct 16 20:48:12 lol Oct 16 20:48:20 you need to sniff during business hours Oct 16 20:48:28 when there is traffic on the lan Oct 16 20:48:48 all telnet and ftp passwords will be clear text Oct 16 20:48:54 as with usernames Oct 16 20:49:00 !! Oct 16 20:49:18 one thing Oct 16 20:49:22 :) Oct 16 20:49:34 even though youre masked by the goodness of distance Oct 16 20:49:42 you can still be seen on the network Oct 16 20:49:59 n make sure you dun use ur name on machine name Oct 16 20:50:01 lol Oct 16 20:50:06 either through the admin watching packets or if you have something like netbeui installed Oct 16 20:50:10 yes Oct 16 20:50:11 lol Oct 16 20:50:29 a lot of lans use vulnerable services Oct 16 20:50:45 a lot of internal linux machines running wu Oct 16 20:50:50 from what ive seen Oct 16 20:51:12 yeah, ive seen wu too Oct 16 20:51:39 depending on what business you are jacking will depend on how many servers and boxes all together there will be Oct 16 20:52:05 a good thing to use is netbeui, for the simple fact that you can see everything there in the browser Oct 16 20:52:09 workstation wise Oct 16 20:52:17 not servers if its nix Oct 16 20:52:38 all together people Oct 16 20:52:43 this is not hard Oct 16 20:52:54 q Oct 16 20:52:58 shoot Oct 16 20:53:04 i like default setting on router so can port forward n such Oct 16 20:53:12 have you seen the stories about using a kind of radar dish to attach to really really distant networks? Oct 16 20:53:20 yes Oct 16 20:53:29 the longest ive heard was 20 miles Oct 16 20:53:36 damn Oct 16 20:53:46 from the berkley hills across the bay to San Francisco Oct 16 20:54:01 rtsp://media-1.datamerica.com/defcon/dc-9/video/dc-09-peter-shipley-video.rm Oct 16 20:54:06 when you get a signal.......how stable is the connection? Oct 16 20:54:06 thats a good video to watch Oct 16 20:54:10 depends Oct 16 20:54:24 on the distance, the antenna, weather etc Oct 16 20:54:37 and type of building it in Oct 16 20:54:45 802.11b uses the 2.4GHz range Oct 16 20:54:54 same as most new cordless phones Oct 16 20:55:06 well......whats the average distance on a sunny day that you can be away from a location? a block, a mile.....yards? Oct 16 20:55:34 about 300 yds Oct 16 20:55:43 k Oct 16 20:56:10 its amazing on how many wide open networks you will find Oct 16 20:56:23 today on the way to school Oct 16 20:56:29 i got 105 APs Oct 16 20:56:46 damn wish there that many close by here Oct 16 20:56:52 and what was the breakdown between residential and commericial would you guess? Oct 16 20:56:53 how far you away frrom school? Oct 16 20:57:06 i say 1/3 was residential Oct 16 20:57:28 and about 1/4 was encrypted with WEP Oct 16 20:57:37 wep is a good slow down Oct 16 20:57:48 but has already been cracked Oct 16 20:58:05 --> MrGreat (rocky@202.54.54.phawked-34537) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 20:58:05 --- ph|z gives voice to MrGreat Oct 16 20:58:10 i use vmware with win2k to run slackware abd bsd Oct 16 20:58:18 yes, but most people arent going to bother waiting for 100mb to a gig of traffic Oct 16 20:58:24 at least, im not that patient Oct 16 20:58:24 youre right Oct 16 20:58:33 but if its something you really want Oct 16 20:58:36 its worth it Oct 16 20:58:38 yeah, i was just about to say that Oct 16 20:58:44 :D Oct 16 20:58:56 now i live in the S.F bay area Oct 16 20:59:02 so there is tons of shit out here Oct 16 20:59:16 most people use GPS and warchalk Oct 16 20:59:31 i dont have gps but im thinking about getting it Oct 16 20:59:39 and the chalk idea is just gay Oct 16 20:59:44 lol Oct 16 20:59:55 looks like crop circles to me Oct 16 20:59:56 all youre doing is notifying the admin that he has a problem Oct 16 21:00:00 hehe Oct 16 21:00:08 i mean Oct 16 21:00:12 lol Oct 16 21:00:15 you dont need to notify other wardrivers Oct 16 21:00:29 if theyre a wardriver they will already know theres one there Oct 16 21:01:01 anyone have anything to add? Oct 16 21:01:15 if your attached to a lan.....are you simply a node? Oct 16 21:01:16 --- immortal gives channel operator status to MrGreat Oct 16 21:01:20 yes Oct 16 21:01:22 i mean.....lets say you connect. Oct 16 21:01:40 so, then you've got default general user privledges? Oct 16 21:01:45 its as if you are physically connected to the wired lan Oct 16 21:01:53 yes Oct 16 21:02:18 so, you can mostly use their connection in the begining..... Oct 16 21:02:26 and then just sniff.....to try and escalate? Oct 16 21:02:40 right Oct 16 21:02:43 thank you Oct 16 21:03:01 :D Oct 16 21:03:06 :) Oct 16 21:03:11 i mean, this is a no brainer Oct 16 21:03:21 i CAN do this! Oct 16 21:03:24 once youre connected Oct 16 21:03:31 use your instincts Oct 16 21:03:41 do get what you want from there Oct 16 21:03:46 it is very fun i think Oct 16 21:03:55 the thing about lanjacking vs. internet hacking Oct 16 21:04:00 i personally enjoy going through fileshares on the lan Oct 16 21:04:02 lan jacking is one step ahead Oct 16 21:04:04 you sometimes find interesting things Oct 16 21:04:09 youre already in the lan Oct 16 21:04:14 yes Oct 16 21:04:27 yeah, you cant be traced can you....its impossible, right? Oct 16 21:04:28 ive found weird things Oct 16 21:04:35 well Oct 16 21:04:37 2 nights ago i found some guys house who was wired...he had about 40 to 50 full lenghth divx movies Oct 16 21:04:37 yes and no Oct 16 21:04:45 ooh Oct 16 21:04:47 nice Oct 16 21:04:55 yeah ill be stopping there in my free time Oct 16 21:04:59 ha Oct 16 21:05:09 sht Oct 16 21:05:15 i gotta get a laptop Oct 16 21:05:24 * immortal nods Oct 16 21:05:28 its good stuff Oct 16 21:05:39 and if ffor some reason you ever have to run from the feds Oct 16 21:05:50 you can always keep in contact with your online buddies Oct 16 21:05:56 traceless...... Oct 16 21:06:02 ;D Oct 16 21:06:06 hehe Oct 16 21:06:09 now THATS chat addiction with a capital CH! Oct 16 21:06:16 haha Oct 16 21:06:18 :D Oct 16 21:06:23 :P Oct 16 21:06:28 run from the feds Oct 16 21:06:31 for wardriving Oct 16 21:06:33 i hope not :( Oct 16 21:06:37 yeah Oct 16 21:06:38 me too Oct 16 21:06:43 luckily for us Oct 16 21:06:49 wardriving is still seemingly new Oct 16 21:06:57 cops, peopls etc dont know Oct 16 21:07:06 they see you with a laptop and they think nothing of it Oct 16 21:07:11 i seen it on cnn other night Oct 16 21:07:19 immortal: i thought i was the only person in my town who would wardrive until i stumbled onto wigle.net Oct 16 21:07:29 and found 90% of the AP's i know were already mapped Oct 16 21:07:36 yeah Oct 16 21:07:56 i know peter shipley scanned a lot in my town also Oct 16 21:08:00 "yeah, hello. theres this strange looking guy sitting on the sidewalk with a laptop. he keeps looking up at our building. Could you send someone over?" Oct 16 21:08:01 lol i ran across wardrivers at best buy was asking for a wireless card there like ahh you wardrive Oct 16 21:08:06 i am like umm goin to Oct 16 21:08:08 lol Oct 16 21:08:12 lopl Oct 16 21:08:15 haha Oct 16 21:08:18 ha Oct 16 21:08:48 well Oct 16 21:09:02 unless anyone has something else to add/ask i guess thats it Oct 16 21:09:24 what if your running windows and connect to a mac or linux computer..... Oct 16 21:09:27 i hope this at least shed a light and opened a hole for some of you Oct 16 21:09:29 hmm what about anteenas what you use? Oct 16 21:09:43 http://www.wirelesscentral.net/aprod/STUM-ANTW.html Oct 16 21:09:49 thats the antenna i use Oct 16 21:09:51 k Oct 16 21:09:53 with the same card Oct 16 21:09:57 proteus Oct 16 21:09:59 uhm Oct 16 21:10:04 i dunno about the mac Oct 16 21:10:07 but the linux Oct 16 21:10:13 i look for vulns to root the box Oct 16 21:10:29 usually the nix box will be the gateway Oct 16 21:10:44 or another server Oct 16 21:10:57 i have yet to find a network with workstations using nix Oct 16 21:11:11 k Oct 16 21:11:24 its mostly windows Oct 16 21:11:29 heh wonder if anyone defaced through wireless yet Oct 16 21:11:33 tis why i recomend using windows Oct 16 21:11:33 --- MrGreat is now known as MrGreat[A] Oct 16 21:11:36 k Oct 16 21:11:49 i am starting to think i might have been better off with a pcmcia card instead of an internal one Oct 16 21:11:49 if someone is setting up a wireless network in their house or business..... Oct 16 21:11:56 whats the best way to keep someone out? Oct 16 21:12:03 using WEP Oct 16 21:12:03 KoS: why? Oct 16 21:12:06 its gonna be a pain in the ass to hook up an antenna to a pigtail thats screwed into the bottom of my laptop Oct 16 21:12:13 yeah Oct 16 21:12:23 KoS: that suc Oct 16 21:12:25 ks Oct 16 21:12:34 well Oct 16 21:12:41 i figured my laptop is big enough as it is Oct 16 21:12:45 why carry an extra card Oct 16 21:12:46 PLUS gps Oct 16 21:12:59 what gps you use? Oct 16 21:13:10 the usb one from deluo.com Oct 16 21:13:25 but, WEP has been cracked? is their a next level of security? Oct 16 21:13:31 well Oct 16 21:13:40 theres this one program Oct 16 21:13:42 you can filter mac addresses on your router Oct 16 21:13:53 it spawns tons of fake APs Oct 16 21:14:00 broadcasts* Oct 16 21:14:13 but i havent come accross it yet Oct 16 21:14:16 in the wild Oct 16 21:14:17 so its like finding a needle in the haystack? Oct 16 21:14:21 yes Oct 16 21:14:29 --> B_Real (sssssss@tha.rewt.ownz.you) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 21:14:30 --- ph|z gives voice to B_Real Oct 16 21:14:36 whats that called? Oct 16 21:14:45 someone is going to really want to gain access to your network to crack WEP Oct 16 21:14:51 uhm Oct 16 21:15:00 stumverter? Oct 16 21:15:04 im not sure Oct 16 21:15:08 okay Oct 16 21:15:09 ill check Oct 16 21:15:47 immortal: what gps you use Oct 16 21:15:50 ? Oct 16 21:15:57 http://www.blackalchemy.to/Projects/fakeap/fake-ap.html Oct 16 21:15:59 i dont use one Oct 16 21:16:06 thanks Oct 16 21:16:08 np Oct 16 21:16:30 check out these links for more info Oct 16 21:16:32 http://www.wirelesscentral.net/aprod/STUM-ANTW.html Oct 16 21:16:32 http://www.dachb0den.com/ Oct 16 21:16:32 http://www.dis.org/wl/ Oct 16 21:16:32 rtsp://media-1.datamerica.com/defcon/dc-9/video/dc-09-peter-shipley-video.rm Oct 16 21:16:32 http://metatag.tripod.com/howto/Wardriving-HOWTO.txt Oct 16 21:16:32 http://metatag.tripod.com/howto/wardriving_blacksun.txt <- linux how to Oct 16 21:16:32 www.linux-wlan.org Oct 16 21:16:32 www.warchalking.org Oct 16 21:16:32 www.bawug.org Oct 16 21:16:50 http://www.worldwidewardrive.org/ Oct 16 21:16:55 ^^ check that out too Oct 16 21:17:07 wardriving.com Oct 16 21:17:28 --- immortal gives channel operator status to B_Real Oct 16 21:17:35 but if you didnt get a chance to log Oct 16 21:17:47 just check back on the topic i wil put a link Oct 16 21:17:54 as soon as i get it up Oct 16 21:17:56 somewhere Oct 16 21:17:57 :D Oct 16 21:17:57 cool :D Oct 16 21:18:07 ty Oct 16 21:18:17 np Oct 16 21:18:18 --> stealth (stealth@phawked-39526.pth0210.pth.iprimus.net.au) has joined #!lanjacking Oct 16 21:18:19 --- ph|z gives voice to stealth Oct 16 21:18:24 yo stealth Oct 16 21:18:28 yo mud Oct 16 21:18:29 now its food time Oct 16 21:18:30 brb